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I’m gonna say it, as an NA fan, Johnny had the best list.

After watch Bates defend this list, I truly want him as my lawyer

what happened to Roll Dizz??

it's funny how they just don't get the fundamentals of how tbates thinks about the list. He rates players based on expectations and individual performance, not the team's performance, which is a huge huge difference. A single player could be performing well over expectations and the other 2 teammates could be throwing. That one player could be considered the best performing player at the LAN even though their team went 0-3. Think about Zen being on Team Mobula and going 0-3. Zen would probably be in most peoples top 5 because of individual performance especially if he exceeded expectations. So just look at Tbates list and say did this player perform above, at, or below expectations and it will look a lot more clear.

Would love to see Greybeard on here for some more international representation!

I actually agree with Bates perspective that an individual players performance is completely separate from their teams placement

Tbates gets to much hate from the comments. The character he plays is the guy who has extreme points designed to push people’s buttons and he knows this and that’s why he’s an entertainer and sparks a lot of funny conversations.

Does bates purposely have the worst takes ever?

Atomic was way better than TRk lol what the hell we talking about. Atomic a 2 or 3 time LAN winner.

My top 25: 1 Beastmode 2 TRK511 3 Itachi 4 Daniel 5 Yan 6 Killeeerz 7 Zen 8 RW9 9 Lj 10 Atomic 11 Seiko 12 Firstkiller 13 Lostt 14 Juicy 15 Dralii 16 Drufinho 17 Alpha54 18 Monkey M00N 19 Chronic 20 Chicago 21 Oski 22 Bannanahead 23 ApparentlyJack 24 Radosin 25 Hockser

I know Tbates is known for his wild opinions, but he actually makes really good points. You can agree or disagree with his conclusions, but when guys like Daz don't even care to listen to Bates' arguments, because they always need to disagree with him, it annoys me.

Players that have won more than 1 rlcs lan in this and last season combined: Zen/Rado/Alpha vitality roster Itachi

I've been saying Itachi is underrated since KC won that major

i cant keep defending tbates man, he has officially lost it

Tbates gets paid to be an RLCS analyst and he doesn't even watch the matches that aren't G2. absolute fraud.

Landon?

Tbates literally bothers me lmao he makes these videos annoying. Im an NA fanboy and at some point most of us accepted whats been going on in the rocket league world. I rate g2 higher than falcons only cause of the head to head in grands but there is NO WAY you can have any of the falcons players out of the top 10. They were by far the best team leading up to the grand finals and i thought they would steamroll g2 in the finals. Its frustrating listening to him lol

Tbates relishing the one time g2 have won in 2 years praising himself the messiah

I swear Bates just gets the octane points per game list. Sorts in descending order, moves G2 to the top and bam that's his list.

I'm a G2 fan, so I usually agree with bates's lists, but this one was a travesty

Tbates rating Falcons that lowly just indicates that they were nervous and played a poor series in the final but he also says that is not what happened lmaooooooo. How are they not rated higher than this if they did play well in the final?

All the copium from all the G2 haters in these comments is actually hilarious

can we get rid of Bates next time? or can bro actually stop making these MEME lists?

I think if Tbates was not in the video, it would have been 15 minutes long😂.

49:43 rare daz W

Regardless of how troll tbates list is. Individual performance makes sense. The player LJ played better then the entire falcons team. INDIVIDUALLY TALK TO EM BATES (i have some trouble with a few picks tho)

Actually cant even watch this one because bates is that insufferable. He's fuckin regarded

No person in the world gets me as mad as tbates gets me in these top 25 rankings I'm literally shouting at him in my car about how shit his logic is. And when he has a half decent point you don't even care cause it's sandwiched between the most hypocritical sentences you've ever heard. Love his content elsewhere but my god

people in chat complaining about Tbates are so obnoxious. He's an entertainer, don't take it too seriously. He probably realizes he's wrong on a couple of these picks, he's sticking to his guns because that's better content. Do you want him to say "you're right guys" and go silent every time he gets pushback??? Do you want everyone to agree on everything for 2 hours?

Johnny u cooking up Salt Mine 4?

Who is major Landon?

Bro Yumi needs to commentate more I loved him in the Furia vs Moist

Why is Daz wearing makeup?

Bates is delulu

I agree with bates in rating players, the 3 together team avg finish shouldn't always equal the result.

johnny try to give G2 their flowers challenge level impossible

Daz’s take about top 24 all being top 8 team members is so bull. It’s possible, as Johnny said, but in practice that’s almost never the case and you can’t use top 8 as the sole argument for a player make top 24.

I think for tbates, this was unbiased copium. The picks ain't bad till brad/lostt/comm. He gave a decent reason for their placement but barely talked about the others

I usually try and defend bates but wow this list was a troll lol😂

i need that Tbates pacc

2:57 “he should be on some list” lmao this statement says SO much more than what was intended I think 💀

I almost never agree with Johnny but this has to be one of his best lists. I also like how refreshing Bates can be but this is just offensive to the Falcons roster. Bates has more W takes than people realize, but for every W take he spouts like 20 L takes that drown them out.

dralii 21 itachi 9 . tbates is an afrocentric 100% he hates moroccans

YUMI CHEESEMAN LOOKING SEXY

G2 is undoubtedly the best team after those last 2 majors right?

The roast of VKsailen at the beginning is just gold.

I must be watching different Vitality games bc Radosin gets so much hate. But i never i mean never see Alpha54 doing anything. Its always Radosin killing it when they win Tourneys. Thats not like oh when Radosin finally steps up they win bc I never feel like Alpha steps up. Zen and Rado play well they get to finals.

Bates makes these such a hard watch

Tbates argument for putting drali so low was that he did well in Swiss but bad in bracket which is fair but then he put comm 4 places above him lmaoooo

atomic played better then daniel!